by Priscilla F. Harmanus, 1993 from the Netherlands Wednesday feb. 12, 2020 ♀

You have seen Ubuntu/Linux installed in a friends PC. That's a nice program, can I have a copy?

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Bob has spent the last ten years fruitlessly trying to catch linux up with proprietary software.

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And now you know, too.

System and method for automated migration from windows to linux

(e.g., one could run DOS programs on UNIX machines)

Linux and Windows in industrial automation

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Bob has spent the last ten years fruitlessly trying to catch linux up with proprietary software.

*gasp* M$N for linux?  That's sad.



Manually setting up Open Source Operating Systems. 
The true Way to the Knowledge of the Source...


Once Linux is installed and running, Bob is using it exactly like using Windows. You click on an icon and the program starts. There is very little for end users to learn, it just looks a bit different.

How to install proprietary software in Ubuntu?

¶ Xeoma Video Surveillance Software from the Ubuntu Software Center


Ubuntu is delivered by Canonical, the company that makes and distributes Ubuntu ~ from Richard M.  Stallman.

¶ Richard Stallman Talks About Ubuntu - Ubuntu the Spyware - 16 feb 2013 - from YouTube

Bob isn’t concerned about the amount of proprietary software that seems to be part of Ubuntu now. I've noticed quite a few apps that in the software center are listed as "License: proprietary"

Obviously there's the partner stuff, like Skype that in 2011 Bob installed on both windows and linux machines (although that's not good example as it doesn't work in the Software Center) but there seems to be a fair load of other stuff creeping in, too.

Skype - "My Google Activity"

As the program targets a larger audience the number of technology free riders increases, creating a feeling of being abused by the system for the software vendor. This certainly explains why so many software programs stay proprietary. There are also variations on Ubuntu that include proprietary/non-free software in the default installation. One popular variation is called Linux Mint.

Is there something I've not understood here?
When and how did you switch to Linux? And what motivates a developer besides money?


A system and method for automating the migration of configuration settings and data from computer systems running the Windows® operating system to computer systems running the Linux® operating system. The method utilizes data from one or more sources to create the configuration of the target system, and translates between settings related to the Windows® systems and Linux® systems involved. As a result, it simplifies the otherwise complex and time-consuming task of migrating from one server to another, specifically when migrating between two operating systems that provide similar functionality but are configured in distinctly different ways.

¶ FPO IP Research ■ System and method for automated migration from windows to linux

Setting up a new computer for grandmother

Grandmother's Computer, getting her on Linux. Rather than being concerned with the mechanics of the software. she was soon interacting with her content.. She's the kind of grandmother who ends up with the Ask toolbar, a bloated desktop and no clue where her Solitaire shortcut ended up each time.

Why would you ever stick a non computer literate person on linux? All you're doing is creating a tech support dependence on you and dooming yourself to endless discussions of "no you can't do XYZ that everyone else can because of me" Then bob goes back to visit her.

In meanwhile Bob help them to keep their files under closed/proprietary formats and communicate through closed/proprietary protocols, then, why on the earth do you want them to use a free operating system?

Free operating system

The fundamental difference between the two movements is in their values, their ways of looking at the world. For the Open Source movement, the issue of whether software should be open source is a practical question, not an ethical one. As one person put it, “Open source is a development methodology; free software is a social movement.

The Free Software movement and the Open Source movement are today separate movements with different views and goals.

At the “Open Source Developers Day” meeting in August 1998, several of the commercial developers invited said they intend to make only a part of their work free software (or “open source”). The focus of their business is on developing proprietary add-ons (software or manuals) to sell to the users of this free software. They ask us to regard this as legitimate, as part of our community, because some of the money is donated to free software development.

Why those who know about Freedom-ware, and support the idea, don’t make the switch? Aside their inability to follow their thoughts (the games excuse is included here), because switching from Windows+Office+MSNMessenger/Etc to GNU/Linux+OpenOffice.org+Pidgin+Etc seems like a huge step, only made by adventurous souls.

His grandmother aka oldies can't handle technology, but she wants to be able to communicate with Bob and her family through the internet. (ex. Gmail beta 2004 - 2007).. So Bob thought he could install a Linux in her computer with just the ultra basics. I mean, an interface that he can edit to have only 3/4 buttons. Proprietary programs like telegram, Skype, a recipe site... and that's it.

Yet Solitaire and some net browsing for Facebook and Gmail are basically all she needs.

Then bob goes back to visit her.  Since grandma is going to value the ability to call someone to help her with her new computer.  If she get’s stuck.  Bob sets up firefox, thunderbird (or enigma) and downloaded her favorite games.  Grandma interested in Facebook, Banking, NS and Gmail and sites like that. Placed icons for her most used applications on the desktop for easy access. Bob does all the maintenance on the machine (updates, install new printer, etc.). Its been running great for over two years. She loves it!

Bob's ex-girlfriend uses Linux, and she doesn't hardly know a mouse from a toaster. ‘’Ant Alice’’ who surfs the web and uses email and is using windows  ’doing tax and administration’’ on her (two computers running windows) in her local office at home, having multiple PCs in their homes and the cost of windows licenses Bob let his ant in particular) buy adds up.

As a computer user like BOB for more ten twenty years, comparing Ubuntu to Windows 98, (a 10 year old OS) back to MS DOS 3.1.. back before the internet, en when you have the internet and Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.

In the end,
you ignore everything and
click "I agree"

Using Linux is not exactly like using Windows, this is inarguable, and Linux users like it that way- it's the rest of the world that has a problem with it, or will have a problem or another challenge with it if and when they try to use it.

The masses and oldies like grandma & ’’ant Alice’’ simply don't know how to use Windows, period.

It's just not to the point where every family has a Linux "computer person" to turn to when they need help. as happens.

The Javascript Trap

…Remember opening a heck of a lot of consoles even in Windows 98. Yet millions of people used it. The average user(remember, that's what I've been taking as the definition of "user" :)) won't ever open a console though in either OS unless specifically directed to by somebody ‘’like bob’’ to "fix" something. More technical users will be scared away though since they'll quickly find that to fix their own problems, they're going to have to learn how to use the console (and delving into MS-DOS in Windows 98 to fix something wasn't exactly rare...)

I think there is a bit of difference in what people consider the term "users" to mean. Some are assuming the "user" to be anybody who might use the system, while others are assuming the "user" to be an average computer user. Both definitions have their merits, but lead to the pretty different conclusions the two sides take in our mini-debate.

Double-jack and I been using the latter definition. All that linux is missing for the average user is support. When their "internet is broken", it doesn't matter to the average user if they're using Windows, OSX, Linux, or a Commodore 64. There is a problem, and they won't know (or care to learn!) how to fix it regardless of what they're using. Give these users something that works and give them support when it doesn't and they'll be happy.

If the other definition is used though, you need to look at every type of user that could possibly be using the OS. There are lots of types, but I think a minimal split would be into enthusiasts (us) and non-enthusiasts (the average user). For each user type you need to look at the learning curve to determine if the OS is "ready" for them. I've already stated that I think Linux is ready for the average user, because they've never explored the OS beyond opening programs and browsing the filesystem. An user like BOB who are more interested in tweaking it to their liking have a much steeper learning curve though because more of Linux tweaking involves cryptic commands and configuration files.

So, the typical user will never install an OS. Not OSX, not Linux, and not Windows. They don't install hardware, or fiddle with configurations. For many, they don't even install software (which is likely a part of why console sales pwn pc game sales, consoles eliminate the need to install anything). They leave that to people who know what they're doing. (OB knows what he is doing.) That means they buy a computer that is preinstalled & configured, and they use it just like it is until it breaks. For most people, a pc is no different than any other appliance.

Bob first mention was that people now have multiple PCs in their homes and the cost of windows licenses adds up, which is true. Bob is also making a point about ghosting linux onto 99,999 computers for way less than the cost (operating system and labor of installation) of doing the same with Windows. And BOB then make the assumption that once you install it a few times you get really good at it, well that is true in a corporate environment but not in a home, after all once a person figures out how to do it at home it is not like they are going travel their neighborhood installing linux for everyone like BOB does. It seems obvious to me that BOB is trying to merge two examples together and make a single point which is not accurate.

Path dependence is the process in which events or choices from the past influence the course of later developments, mainly because certain options are difficult or excluded.

Just like with a real path, there are intersections, or alternatives where a small malfunction or deviation can have a very large influence on the further course of the process, this as a result of the effect of feedback. This is followed by a more stable phase, in which reversing is hardly possible, if at all. Thanks to the positive feedback factor, the once chosen development is continued.

The most characteristic of path-dependent processes is that, despite the central role of feedback, they are not deterministic, but chaotic. In other words, the transition to the stable phase is entirely dependent on the decision made at the "intersection". Path-dependent processes are therefore not self-correcting.

Path-dependent processes also occur in daily life. For example, one often speaks of someone's "career", because this part of personal development has a strongly path-dependent character; career is largely related to prior education.

Both operating systems may be installed on a single computer (i.e dual-boot.) and therefore not violating the 'do not install on multiple computers' clause found elsewhere in the EULA.

to be continued

■  Desktop computer 2017
  Netgear DS104 4-Port Dual-Speed Ethernet Hub 1999
  Xeoma video surveillance software 2015 
¶  Skype BUSSINESS VOIP UBUNTU WINDOWS DUAL-BOOT - My Google Activity - friends PC

■ xbmc web radio - what is wrong -  dec 29, 2004 om 21:31
 Bob had a question about XBMC.  His web radio was not working.
■ http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ . http://nginyang.uvt.nl/feisty/



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